My idea for icon: "Rage" Fist

I would love to see either of these fists converted into a guild icon:
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/LPG/51052~Rage-Against-The-Machine-Posters.jpg
http://www.mondotees.com/ProductImages/bangonicons/fist.jpg

I frankly dont know which one Id like better, Id have to see them shrunk down to size to be able to tell which looks better in that form. Though I think both would work with transparent background or as-is. I just think we need an icon that fits our name, not just something that is funny or looks cool.

hey bobbert.. i tried transparency on the 2nd image, the only one that appealed to me. to me at 20x20, the shape of the fist isn't that clearly distinguishable. and im afraid the pink will bleed through pretty bad